Placing your trust into a radar
detector takes time and
requires a lot of driving time behind
the wheel and a proven historical
track-record with a variety of different
speed trap encounters.
pulsed X-band K-55 from rear - 20+ yrs
Concerned about POP RADAR? No
need. Plenty of other lethal
speedtraps lurking about.
test, we drove almost 2300 miles in five states (AZ, NV, PA,
NJ, NY), encountered, without
incident, all forms of
pulsed/steady radar currently utilized in
North America and even unexpectedly
encroached upon a laser speed trap in
allowed us to avoid a
You can read, in detail,
about all of our actual driving
experiences in the
version of this review.
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Bottom line - all three of these
radar detectors are truly stellar
performers and we have yet to encounter
a real speed trap that any of these
detectors weren’t up to the task of
providing the maximum level of
protection that a detector is capable of
This is not to say that we didn’t have
our preferences. We did, though,
these preferences were more tied to an
individual radar detector "personality"
than merely performance differences.
RX65 Pro, Rev 3.6
Ergonomically, it was
We loved the quick re-programming
ability, the volume levels obtainable,
band audio clarity, its smaller size,
the overall quietness of operation [lack
of falsing] even on highway mode, that
it can be operated in Dark Mode,
provided remote volume adjustment with
audio assistance -at a touch of a button
[on the lighter plug] and that changes
to operation are accompanied by
textual/tonal confirmation. Most
importantly, though, it was consistently quick at alerting to
approaching ALL radar threats
Along with this quickness came a
somewhat higher "false" rate -including
POP -relative to the Escort and
therefore required a modest
level of involvement from its owner to
properly interpret what the alarms
The fact that is has the added
capability to detect Ku radar - which
has been in use in Europe for quite some
time and may soon be making its
appearance stateside, is a nice bonus.
Think of the
Bel as a high-performance sports car
that can act as daily driver.
Vehicles such as a late model
or Porsche 911
with SMG come to mind.
X50 (Red), Rev 5
Escort 8500 X50 (Red) was the
easiest with which to get along.
It was the most quiet in terms falsing,
provided exceptional sensitivity to
both K and Ka radar, and ease of
programming and/or setting changes while
We did not
specifically encounter a laser trap with
the X50 in operation, but given the
nature of the one we did stumble upon,
we are certain it would have behaved
similarly. Its X-band performance
did appear to diminish*, somewhat, when
operating with Ka band enabled.
This fact is purely academic, though, if
you don't live or drive in New Jersey or
any other area where X-band radar is
known to be in operation.
*UPDATE: 19 NOV 05 We have lived with a later model of the 8500 X50
for several months now and have found that its X-band performance
appears to be more in-line now with the RX-65. Furthermore the
detector appears to be quite a bit more sensative to Laser than its
cousin the RX65. Based-upon our updated experiences, we would
tend to favor the 8500 X50 [over the RX65] if laser was our primary concern.
*More on this subject in the near future.
Escort as a nice Grand Tourer (GT)
of the three - an E-class from
or a 5 Series from
Bayerische Motoren Werke, if
It should be
considered when one desires a very
high-level of protection without
requiring a lot of driver involvement.
In other words, its low maintenance.
Valentine One, v1.8 /w POP2
Valentine, as expected,
was quick at alerting
to ALL radar/laser traps encountered
may provide ultimate performance [particularly with laser], but our
venerable V1’s stellar performance was
somewhat diminished by a
greater propensity* to “falsing” on K
band and required the most
involvement of the driver to properly interpret its
alerts. We would prefer it
to be quieter [even at the risk of some
advanced warning time to a real trap]
because, after awhile, we found
ourselves ignoring its K-alert anyway
which can be just, if not more so, as
This increased falsing was noticeable
even in rural [remote] areas of our
driving route. The Valentine
falsed the least on Ka-band
relative to the other two detectors and
in the summer season - its been
suggested - that this may become more
pronounced as there will tend to be an
increase of "cheap" radar detectors on
the road as people do more vacation
traveling. We'll have to wait and
*UPDATE: 19 NOV 05 This issue has now been resolved with
an updated version (v3.25) and the detector now
is now one of the quieter ones! In addition, the newer
Valentines have a "J" [for Junk] feature which will
automatically identify some Ka-falses as bogus LO leakage
and auto-mute them out - a very nice touch, indeed. We
will address the additional capabilities and features of our
updated model when we release a follow-on to our report.
We still love the arrows,
that immediately identify the location
of a “threat” and have been accustomed
to them for well over a decade!
But, we did not specifically encounter a
speed trap, during this test, where they
would have made a substantive difference
- which is not to say that there aren’t
specific conditions, where they may
And - as evidenced on
our driving route of
six - they may occasionally be
misleading, requiring proper
interpretation from its owner.
Additionally, the Valentine was somewhat
ergonomically challenged as compared to
the other detectors from Bel and Escort.
An all too familiar
site on this stretch of highway.
Think of the Valentine as the pure
race-car of the bunch - such
as a Ferrari F40.
It has awesome capability.
Valentine One, v1.7
The older model has aged
especially well and continues to dazzle
us with reliable top-shelf performance.
Other than not having the newer POP nor
Ku capabilities, this detector is still
an incredible performer and we
really wouldn't feel any less protected
driving with it [in the States] as
compared to the newer detectors.
"No POP," you say? "So what," we
say - troopers should be using the
standard operational mode of the BEE
III anyway so that they can legally
issue tickets and until the day that POP
can be used in that manner (we doubt
that'll ever happen) its more marketing
hype than a real threat. Is
POP capability nice? Sure, but
this detector still remains a
benchmark by which [all] other
radar detectors (including the V1 v1.8)
*UPDATE: 19 NOV 05
We have now lived with an updated version (v3.825) for several months and believe that despite some small glitches
in the "J" programming, that this detector
has become our new reference.
**UPDATE: 17 DEC 05
VR has recently informed us of an updated model (v3.826) that is now shipping
which has had some programming updates to address the aforementioned
glitch. Existing owners may contact them for an update/upgrade.
This older model only slightly
lagged in Ka-band sensitivity to its
younger brother, the V1.8 and appeared
just slightly quicker with X & K-band
radar, and provides superior laser detection [even compared to the newer models of Bel & Escort] - an incredible accomplishment
given that it's on more than a
decade old! No doubt, that's why
they continue to
fetch a premium on E-bay. For its
time (come to think of it, for all
time), it truly is an engineering
Thinking of this one as a
Lamborghini Diablo VT, Lotus Esprit,
or perhaps (it's been suggested) a supercharged
Our Overall Preference
Throughout these tests, we found
ourselves favoring the comparison of
both the RX65 Pro and V1.
And, in fact, although it’s not
practical for most, we enjoyed driving
with both detectors in operation
– they appeared to get along quite
nicely. If one alerted while the other
remained silent, we would feel more
assured that we could disregard the
alert. If both alerted, we were more
inclined to react immediately.
Taking everything into
consideration- if we had
only to pick one radar detector to
take with us on our trip, it would be
the Beltronics RX65 Pro.
If laser was
our primary concern, then we would opt for either the
Valentine V1 or the Escort 8500 X50.
what's your preference?
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